"Bloggers Aretae and Foseti are debating moral decline. Foseti takes the classic reactionary position. He states that we are in a period of moral decline and warns of the dangers. Aretae mocks him, saying, "every single generation in the last three thousand years has complained about moral decay, and look we are doing great!"
Paradoxically, it's possible that both Aretae and Foseti are completely correct.
consider the following three assertions
- 99% of the people ever born in the history of the world were more morally decadent than their parents.
- reactionaries are absolutely right about the dangers of moral decay and decadence, and absolutely correct that a hard-core, disciplined morality is crucial for building civilization
- we are more prosperous and live in a more developed civilization than any previous time in history.
It is entirely possible that all three statements are true statements. How can that be you might ask?
Discipline is required to build civilization.
Once built, civilization causes increases in wealth. Wealth leads to moral decadence. Therefore each generation is more decadent and simultaneously, more prosperous.
It takes a long time and lots of decadence to destroy civilization, hence all three positions are possible. For a while, at least."
"Let's use the reactionary definition of moral decline, which basically means decadence. By this definition, moral decline is when people stop valuing the traits that reactionaries believe make civilization grow and prosper. Indicators of moral decline include: sacrificing future investment for indulging today; ... spending time at dilettante political book clubs rather than building a business; importing foreign castes to do hard labor; importing foreign castes to fight your war; unwillingness to use violence in the cause of justice and self defense..."
I am interested in economic decline, economic decadence, not moral decline or moral decadence.
"Let's zoom forward to 2016. This is the year that the chancellor and the Office for Budget Responsibility predicts we will have closed the gap between national spending and income.